continuing the thread with Billy…
“The reality is that Freedom has always had to be fought for, even before our country existed…”
The second clause of that quote is the dead-giveaway. Because of the life and death importance of ideas to human existence, this is like saying that the sum of 2+2 “has always had to be fought for, even after it was established as a proper reference to reality.” Well, I’m here to point out that any culture that has to fight for such elemental truths is neck-deep in an alligator swamp of its very own making.
I respond:
Agreed, fully… It is, in fact, a simple equation. It is also, however, a truth that is little spoken anymore. And there’s the issue.
And I’m here to tell you that the cause of that making, is our lack of willingness to pound on those fundamentals continually… To teach them continually to our young people, to hold them as values to be maintained, to be sought after, to be cherished.
Again, we agree …That they are elemental truths, is beyond question to anyone who is fully exposed to it. You and I are in fundamental agreement here. (Mind you, that is not an idle choice of words.)
But of what good is it if they are not taught, as such? After a few generations of that, (along with those who object to those values, pounding out there sludge on a daily basis for 100 years or so….) they are no longer accepted as fundamentals, and we spend all of our time arguing about it, with a 50/50 chance of losing the fight. That’s one of the reasons that I object so strongly to the likes of the professor, here. (Erb of course… Bit)
Put another way, if we actually had people who would stand up and pound on these fundamentals continually, particularly in the educational process, we would not have to put up with the opinions of “stupid people”.
In short, that sticker on the back of my truck, that says “freedom isn’t free”, isn’t just about military action, outside our borders.
A lot of this has to do with cultural conceptions of reality.
The conversation is moving far too fast for me to be echoing the whole thing out here, but I wanted to give you a taste of where that conversation is headed, And to encourage you to go over and read the thing yourself.
As I indicated in the thread, will there; I am somewhat discouraged by the quality of the arguments against American fundamentals, from such as Erb, but I am encouraged that there are those willing to hold high the fundamentals against which Erb and his like are arguing.
Billy I didn’t say this to you, over there, but I will here:
Of COURSE Joe is a moron.
But understand the source… I consider that the likes of Erb is a teacher, and is filling those minds full of his mush… as big a threat as al-Qaida is to our country and our culture. It’s from the likes of him, where morons of the likes of Joe come from. We got into the current situation by refusing to engage these people, and defeat them. We culturally decided to accept these “differences of ideas” as something to be overlooked, rather than fight against. We are now paying the price.
I hold no illusions about our ability to beat such people back into shamed insignificance during our lifetime. But if this country is to survive, it must be done.
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